Witn Nero (I don't know if crappy Nero Express does this) select CD copy. Somewehere in the options you can choose what to name the image file, where to store it, and if you want it deleted after copying. It has been a long time since I have done this. Nero will default the file as "c:\image.nrg". I can't remember if Nero will save the image as an iso. I seem to remember that Nero will read isos. It all depends if you want an iso or if you want just an image that you can use with Nero at a later time.