A little off topic I would say

[psychonaut13]

i mean, don't get me wrong...it's obvious the kid has taken the time to learn a few things and for that, i commend him.

however...never, EVER call yourself a designer until you've designed a site....and i mean down to the last detail. the details that most will never even see. you could do a lot with what you've started on there...take a look at the sites that you think rock all asses of candy and try to mimic them. don't take things from them..but mimic them.

 

[KingKill33]

lol

lol I give this post one day and already I have people running twards me with knifes to my throat. Did I mention that the site wasent finished? I have only had it for a little while, and my band is just now getting the Recording stuff we needed to start up our recording. So "O Kill the, there was no else to be found" if you want. Apparently I'm some punching bag. But w/e, say or do w/e you want because apparently some people are stuck on the past and too blind to see the future.

And I don't call myself a "designer", suchas a professional designer. I call myself a creator. Wouldent you agree? If you took the time to look at my website, you would see our songs section. 11 of those songs we have so far are ones I have written. My cold hard feelings and thoughts put into words. So next time you want to comment on anything I do or say. Do a little more reading and learning. Like I said befor I wont give you any crap, infact this was just a leasurely post I made. No harm to offence intended twards any of you. If any was taken then sorry for the misunderstanding.

lol the people that goto my website admit they dont go there to see the page itself. They go there to read OUR news and OUR progress. They go to our site to learn more about US, OUR band. So you can say I'm some complete childish failure that will probably not make it in life. But thats exactly why I am doing what I do now. Thats why I now run off of learning new things that normal people my age dont learn, and cant learn. And doing the thinks most people my age would never have the chance to do. I have the chance and the modivation to do what I do now. So damn me all you want because when you do, and if you do. Then you will be the ones I am laughing at when my band is in the big time.

Somthing for you all to now laugh about if you wish. I am following the foot steps of my foundation, and my insperation. That is Marilyn Manson. Just think, he went through the exact same crap I am going through ritenow. Infact I could almost say his past and my present is identical in more ways then not. He now steps on the people who used to make fun of him, and give him crap all of the time and said he would never be anything more then just a "kid". You go up to him now and tell him he's a loser, a worthless kid. Or what ever. He won't care what you say because he is officialy more then you ever will be. THAT is who I am going to become. More then you, or anyone else around me expected because unlike you and them. I was born without the things it took to become who I am today, and who I will become. But I MADE myself into who I am today, and who I will become.

So make my day, please do. Leave me more trashy comments. I will be sure to keep them all to remind me when I think all I am doing is for nought, of the people who have singled me out of everyone else and made me the one to shoot down, and distroy.

 

[Hypnos]

Re: lol

So make my day, please do. Leave me more trashy comments. I will be sure to keep them all to remind me when I think all I am doing is for nought, of the people who have singled me out of everyone else and made me the one to shoot down, and distroy.

It's spelled destroy..and noone singled you out....you created the thread.....did you expect everyone to pat you on the back and say good job?

 

[Dirty]

I think you did good job! People like me cause I like helmets!


ABCD!

123!


GO TEAM!

Helmets!

Little bus!

Helm.

 

[KingKill33]

lol

lol spelling error, my bad. :-/

And no, actualy sorry for the trouble. I knew this would happen lol. I am not sure why I even try to show people who I am anymore. So just forget it peeps. It's as if I wasent even here. But once again I have learned alot. I will actualy take some of this criticism as pointers and tips on how to better form what I do, and how I do it. Also I will learn from your actions on how some people will react to certian types of information. Also what to say and what not to say.

Also Psychonaut, what websites have you designed. I am greatly interested in your work, I could probably learn a great deal from your example.


Well you can all go back to what you were doing.
No one to see here

 

[Machiavelli]

awwwww

 

[BillyTheKid]

Later kd

 

[Intro]

You do good jobs!

Have you seen my baseball?

http://www.13thelementpropaganda.com/ - careful, this porridge is HOT!

:twisted:

 

[psychonaut13]

Re: lol

lol spelling error, my bad. :-/

And no, actualy sorry for the trouble. I knew this would happen lol. I am not sure why I even try to show people who I am anymore. So just forget it peeps. It's as if I wasent even here. But once again I have learned alot. I will actualy take some of this criticism as pointers and tips on how to better form what I do, and how I do it. Also I will learn from your actions on how some people will react to certian types of information. Also what to say and what not to say.

Also Psychonaut, what websites have you designed. I am greatly interested in your work, I could probably learn a great deal from your example.


Well you can all go back to what you were doing.
No one to see here

oh goodness. the first thing you need to do is to learn to take criticism. remember that each person's perception is their own, loosely strung from the laws of our reality and global perception. remember this. there is very very little constructive criticism in this world. if you detach yourself from your creative works it makes it much easier to deal with.

secondly....yes i am guilty of looking and laughing, but not before i thouroughly explored the space that you created...and then i posted again...attempting to give encouragement in some manner. i'm guilty of being a bit stuck up when it comes to design..i am...and sometimes it makes me sad that i've gotten this way. but i know inside my mind that it is not because someone hasn't reached the level that i have(which is FAR FAR below that of my inspirations) but rather that they have missed what is right in front of their faces. that simple thing called their own eyes and perception. if you're attmepting to create an engaging atmosphere through visual works, there is a bit of reality that is required for the mind trained in the matrix to accept it. these are the things i so wish someone had told me when i first started. so i tell them to you. not in an attempt to dismiss you, or smash you in any way...but because you must learn these things to take the path it seems you are going towards.

as for your path, or what i know of it...still smoldering in your type is the dementia of the social stigmatism of the 70's... breed and born into the idea that we are all born for greatness and fame. this is not the case. and the sooner you not only see this but ACCEPT it, the better off not only you will be but also your art.

as intro has posted above...
www.13thelementpropaganda.com is my site. it contains the majority of my web work. have a peek...and if you have a question, it's not that hard to find me.

rock out
p13

 

[spliT]

very good post.

 

[KingKill33]

lol

Personally, that was probly the best damn flash setup I have ever seen and probably will ever see lol. THat truely was a work of art. Did you use Flash 7 MX? along with the Macromedia studio package to help with the designing and stuff? Because I have a copy of Macromedia Studio which I use quite often.

Also thankyou for the words of wisdom.

One thing though. I was born not with the hinting, or thought of being anything more then just another person. I was told my future by those around me, and who I would be. Which wasnet much shorter then nothing at all. It got to the point I was given no choice but to start thinking of who I want to be in life, and how what I know now will effect the rest of my life. I then started cramming from the very basics of computers to where I am now, and thats programming. I saw that knowing about computers alone at my age would not satisfy who I would like to become. Infact it was leaving a part of me which I keep in mind all of the time. Thats my passion for music. I found a music artist I could relate to through his own experinces and his music. That alone contributed to me becoming the Guitarist for the band ConfinedZone. And that one thought that Marilyn Manson came from being nothing, and told he would never be anything better is what drives me to the extreme points which I reach today. I have been searching for ways to make my music "dream" work. All of my work has come to the surface and now shows. I now have producers ready to hear us play, and normal/internet radio stations ready to hear our demos we work so hard to create. So I wasent born with anything more then reality. But now I make my own reality because I found out I can do that.

So once again I thankyou for your help. No offence was taken, I am always open to comments or tips about anything. Also I would like to keep your website in mind so I can show other people one of my goals. lol your skill has now shown me what can be done, and how it can be done.

Well I have to go, there is yet more work to be done tonight and I have until 5:00AM tomorrow to get it finished.

 

[SamSeed]

Re: lol

OMFG. This is like some soap opera TV shit. GAY GAY GAY.

"COME FIGHT ME, IVE MASTERED MY SKILLS AND COME BACK FOR REVENGE!! "

Dude, your band must be ballz if you have all this time to to play cs and "design" shit.

NEXT!!

lol kid?
Kid?, No no no. I used to be a kid, until I got a life.

I'm now the guitarist for the band ConfinedZone, and am currently mastering the programming language C++. I have developed a good deal of webpage designing skills, and am the designer for my bands website.

So far I have been too busy to be a "kid". For the past few months I have been working on webpage designing, house renovations *I'm moving*, and extending my knowledge about computers and what they have to offer.

So you see, the "kid" you once knew is dead. I'm the new, and revived version of my old self. So if we could all act as grownups and not throw insults and putdowns, it would make any conversation more tolerable for those who may want to read our posts.

Now, to cut to the chase. I can see that your answer is probably no. You probably think we're not good enough anyways, and would just lose just like your other opponets. So I will for the first time put my "balls" onto the table and respect your decission.

So, you can like me or hate me. It's completely up to you. Just rest asured that I'm one person you will never get any crap from again.

 

[KingKill33]

lol

lol Time? you have no clue what I have done for the past few months. You also have no clue who I am and what I am about. To top it all off I can bet you rite here that I have been doing more work for other people (not too much time for myself lately) then you have ever done in your life. If your such a hot shot, and if your so superior then you prove it to me. I dont want to hear your works or even read them on a screen. You give me somthing in my face, somthing that shows me what all of your hard work has done and I will then take your words into consideration. You will see this is true from the past few posts by me and psychonaut. See psychonaut had proof he was better then I was. He was even nice in showing me his awesome skill.

And you? lol I personally don't want to make you feel bad or make you seem like nothing because your not. But seriously man, who are you to judge me? Can you see what I am talking about man? So you show me your hard work, and you will then have my respect and I will take what you say into consideration. If it intrsists me I will even learn from your examples. But until then, you can type and talk all you like but if its negative twards me. Then I wont hear or see a word of it. You will simply be wasting your time.

 

[Ind3lible]

....and If the band fails...so what right??? I mean you could always just blow your brains out....

Just kidding..

Reach for the stars and you will achieve your goals...beefcake...BEEFCAKE!!!!

Merry Christmas....Happy Chanukah and Happy Kwanzaa!!!!!

 

[DiLLa]

or u could just give all us PuNx a blowjob and we wont care what anyone else thinks