Bad Capacitors

[imported_SuXoR]

I'm beating my head against the wall here. For the past year I have been experiencing premature motherboard failures due to faulty capacitors. So far I have had an Abit BE6II, 6 Leadtek K7NCR18G Pros, and 3 Leadtek K7NCR18D Pros die on me. I have put these boards into office production and the downtime and embarassment are driving me nuts. Have any of you had this problem? I remember reading articles about the rogue employee stealing the incomplete aqueous electrolyte sloution circa late 2000. It is fairly well-published on the net. I really want to get a class action suit started up. At the very least I need to vent. Do any of you have anything to add?

 

[Hypnos]

First of all I have no idea what your talking about.
Secondly, I bet it wouldn't happen if you had a Dell.

Flame on!

 

[imported_SuXoR]

I bet it wouldn't happen if you had a Dell

Uh, just vote for AOL on your Dell.

 

[Hypnos]

I would have if I hadn't already voted what the hell are you talking about. anytime I hear the word "capacitor" I immeadiatly want to attach the word "flux" to the front of it. Then I want to travel back in time so I can dump a truck load of manure on the school bully.

BIFF!!!!

 

[imported_SuXoR]

"1.21 gigawatts!?!?!"

What was I thinking?

 

[slick]

u mean jiggawatts??

 

[DigitalSword]

...!

and you wonder why you fried it, problems wiht motherboards exits in 3 forms, a) a piece is broken off, b) faulty power supply, c) bios settings are whack, Im guessing your running a custom system (overclocking even?)
Try extremeoverclockers.com they have a great download section with tools for stuff and Motherboard Monitor is absolutley essential no matter the case.

Digi

 

[imported_SuXoR]

problems wiht motherboards exits in 3 forms, a) a piece is broken off, b) faulty power supply, c) bios settings are whack, Im guessing your running a custom system (overclocking even?)

How about d) You don't know what you are talking about.

I do agree that you propose solutions to problems that could exist, but they are problems which in my case do not exist. Nothing is broken off. Power supplies in all machines are Enermax (at minimum 300 watts). It is arguable that Enermax is not the best power supply one can buy, but it is definitely a quality part as opposed to a no name piece of junk that comes with a cheap case. BIOS settings are appropriate for the applications. And no, the machines with exception to the Abit BE6II were not overclocked.

You do, however, raise an interesting argument in regards to possible or probable cases of the failures. I have ruled out heat/cooling issues, due to the fact that I have a tendency to overengineer the cooling portion of my systems (moneyShot can confirm this). I also have ruled out electrical issues or "dirty" power because one of the machines was ran exclusively on a new APC UPS unit which cleans and filters the electricity that passes through it. Also I did no voltage tweaking to the CPU, RAM, or AGP.

With that said, I offer some links to articles that may enlighten you to the problem at hand. I found these with a quick search on Google, although I first read about the problem in late 2000. At the time I assumed that the faulty parts would be recalled and never prolifeate the industry to the degree that they have. See what you think.

http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/resource/feb03/ncap.html
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=5878
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=6085
http://www.badcaps.net/
http://www.neoseeker.com/news/story/3602
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2003Feb/bch20030207018535.htm
http://www.pcguide.com/vb/showthread.php?t=25482
http://scottstuff.net/scott/archives/000270.html
http://www.howtofixcomputers.com/bb/ftopic72825.html
http://www.niccomp.com/taiwanlowesr.htm

 

[imported_SuXoR]

u mean jiggawatts??

Yes I mean 1.21 x 10^9 Watts. "Jigga" is not a valid prefix. Hollywood has cornfused you. Do you have an 80 jiggabyte hard drive?

 

[DiLLa]

im lost...sorry not too computer literate when it goes that deep

 

[Hypnos]

I'd take 1.21 Jiggawatts over gigawatts anyday. jigga what? Jigga who?

 

[imported_SuXoR]

...just get jiggy wit' it

 

[DigitalSword]

...

What I meant witht he BIOS settings, and this is still probable, is the voltage settings, fundamentally your chip fires based on its voltage if you overdo it them resulting surge will fry the capacitators that cnadle such a high strength, i didnt know you were referring to faulty componenets literraly, as in beign recalled, my bad. This company obviously has a widespread issue and your not the only guy to have shit fuck up so id get my money back and jesus christ stop goign to leadtek, after 9 boards man take a hint! there shits fucked up, or you may be goofin something(which i doubt after 9 tries). My helpful advice, go to that extremeoverclocking.com, look in there forums and downloads for anytiung to help you, alot of there programs detect voltage on all parts and can detect failing sections, a faulty capactior doesnt just Hault at once it swears down gradually form the strain. NAother question, are your chips frying as well? if nto what kind are they, compatibility between chips and boards is soemthign to look into. I dunno bro jsut tyring to help

Sword

 

[slick]

u mean jiggawatts??

Yes I mean 1.21 x 10^9 Watts. "Jigga" is not a valid prefix. Hollywood has cornfused you. Do you have an 80 jiggabyte hard drive?

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p.s. i was JOKING!!!!!!!
and believe me I know Physics

 

[imported_SuXoR]

Unfortunately, I bought all of the boards at least 13 months ago. Some I bought 24 months ago. At the time, Leadtek was the first vendor to offer an N-Force 2 solution with onboard video. It was great because the boards were a good value considering the overall speed and features versus price. Also, if you recall, in mid to late 2003 a GeForce 4 MX class GPU would "run" most games (not at 1600x1200, but they were playable). Additionally, the onboard sound (Nvidia Soundstorm) rivals that of the soundblaster Live Audigy series. The chipset itself was a breakthrough for AMD systems: dual channel DDR, low latency single chip solution, comprehensive driver support. All of the systems that I built were also rock-solid. I was so impressed that I could offer such a stable, feature-rich system for a very cheap price. I put a mid range Athlon XP in, Western Digital special edition hard drives (they have the 8mb cache and 3 year warranty), Crucial RAM, Enermax Power supply and there you go.

FYI- The computers run fine until one day they lock up and then will not boot. Sometimes power on to a blue screen and sometimes power on to no screen. Open the case and see bulging and leaking capacitors. Remove motherboard, get RMA number, send to manufacturer, add a pinch of salt and let simmer on medium heat for about a week. Recieve board in the mail, put back into case, press the loud button, and BAM- everything is peachy. No fried CPU, RAM, whathaveyou. It is just fustrating to go through the process. Also it sux that the machine is down for 1-2 weeks.

Roight.

Now I just have one question. It has been established that a jiggawhat is 1 x 10^9 whats (or 2^30 binary). So what the hell is a gigolo (jiggalow)? Great Scott! That's alot of J-Lo!