this thread will not die. My .02 is you will rarley to never be able to change someone's mind, and should probably stop trying, on both ends. My personal view is that is one of the bigger problems in society, trying to change peoples minds. It takes a very open mind to be open to new thoughts and concepts, one I struggle with as much as anyone. Freedom of speech is cool, but freedom of thought is a much more powerful right. At the end of the day I don't think anyone accomplished anything except dividing lines and a chance to flame back and forth. I know I'm not really a regular so what I say will be taking with a grain of salt, I just felt the need to maybe add something that might be useful, instead of trying to destroy or call anyone out. I have some strong feeling about the subject, but I don't feel I need to press my point of view on anyone. Happy gaming and hope I will see you in the server.