Opinion?

[JustAnotherStayAtHomeDad]

CLAIM No. 1: MARIJUANA USE IS INCREASING AT AN ALARMING RATE

CLAIM No. 2: MARIJUANA POTENCY HAS INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY

CLAIM No. 3: MARIJUANA IS A DRUG WITHOUT THERAPEUTIC VALUE

CLAIM No. 4: MARIJUANA CAUSES LUNG DISEASE

CLAIM No. 5: MARIJUANA IMPAIRS IMMUNE SYSTEM FUNCTIONING

CLAIM No. 6: MARIJUANA HARMS SEXUAL MATURATION AND REPRODUCTION

CLAIM No. 7: MARIJUANA USE DURING PREGNANCY HARMS THE FETUS

CLAIM No. 8: MARIJUANA CAUSES BRAIN DAMAGE

CLAIM No. 9: MARIJUANA IS AN ADDICTIVE DRUG

CLAIM No.10: MARIJUANA-RELATED MEDICAL EMERGENCIES ARE INCREASING

CLAIM No.11: MARIJUANA PRODUCES AN AMOTIVATIONAL SYNDROME

CLAIM No.12: MARIJUANA IS A MAJOR CAUSE OF HIGHWAY ACCIDENTS

CLAIM No.13: MARIJUANA IS A "GATEWAY" TO THE USE OF OTHER DRUGS

CLAIM No.14: DUTCH MARIJUANA POLICY HAS BEEN A FAILURE

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_myth.shtml

 

[JHoliday]

HEY HEY HEY HEY.....smoke weed everyday!

 

[MeanMugginFool]

We need more jails for all the offenders. Noone should be let out of jail before they are reabilitated.

Can we build one of the new jails next door to your house? :lol:

 

[LastManStanding]

************Pot prohibition increases taxes, and is part of the reason we keep a larger percentage of our population in jail than most tyrannies, let alone other first world countries********************


Keep everyone in jail that needs to be in jail. If you don't have room start putting bullets in the ones that are on death row to clear the room.

I really have no room in my America for criminals or drug users.

 

[Deviant]

In YOUR America? You act you own this country. It's everyone's America and to be anal, we're the United States OF America, not America, there are 2 of those and they're called continents. There are other people than yourself, I bet you're the asshole that walks through a door at the local mall with me only 3 or 4 steps behind and doesn't even have the common courtesy to hold open a door. Get your head out of your ass.

 

[LastManStanding]

Oh you assume way to much grasshopper, way to much.

You'd be surprised of the humanity I show to people.

I give money to every person on the street that asks for it.

I take bags out to elderly peoples cars w/ my stuff in the other hand.

Everyone should take claim for their country. You are part of it. Gives you a sense of pride. When people make it dirty you should be angry. When people break the laws they should be upset.

 

[eggs]

this post is still going ?
shit. .. . . .

 

[Intro]

Oh you assume way to much grasshopper, way to much.

You'd be surprised of the humanity I show to people.

I'd be surprised if you showed us some. A nice start would be showing some respect and not try to "talk down" to anyone who has an OPINION different than yours. Besides, "the humanity I show to people" - well, at least it isn't just we here in the forum, you seem to think everyone is somehow beneath you.

I give money to every person on the street that asks for it.

Which they, in turn, use to buy cheap alcohol and dirty street drugs. You know, the shit that makes reefer look like the quarter-to-ride carousel outside the Dollar Tree.

I take bags out to elderly peoples cars w/ my stuff in the other hand.

Watch those elderly - they'll cut you when you least expect it..

Everyone should take claim for their country. You are part of it. Gives you a sense of pride. When people make it dirty you should be angry. When people break the laws they should be upset.

It seems you do truly take pride in our country, it's just your presentation that comes off a little.. hm.. egomaniacal? I, too, take pride in calling this place home - but I don't close my eyes to where it came from, where it is, and where it's going.

And I love beer. And marijuana. At the same time? Even better.

 

[Dirty]

You guys are all fucking goofy.
Pot aint even a fucking drug.
Do real drugs!
Anyway.

No sense in trying to get ideas across to the larger percent of the population controlled using their own foolishness. Morons will always be morons.

Fuck, in my world there is no law. There is wrong and right which is a moral judgment. Morals being a lot like taste and smell, a personal preference. What fucking right do you flesh and bone fucks have to control what I do anyway. Let your rotting flesh turn to dust and the grass above your dry corpse grow brown with time. May the sun eat this planet with all books, degrees and matter that forms it all be swallowed. Forever crushing our dull reality and cutting an end to the energy of our souls! In time your ideas of control and conformity will be ever so useless, the same as your greedy hands that dig into my business. Live yours, I will live mine, the one thing I have is my life and thoughts, giving to me and only me, you can not have it!
~D
So my point being...
If you want to smoke it, go for it. If you don't want to smoke, don't. If you want to choose who does and does'nt, fuck off!



One more thing... Perma ban lastmanstanding please.

 

[Puppet]

Finally something in this thread worth reading.

 

[psychonaut13]

You guys are all fucking goofy.
Pot aint even a fucking drug.
Do real drugs!
Anyway.

No sense in trying to get ideas across to the larger percent of the population controlled using their own foolishness. Morons will always be morons.

Fuck, in my world there is no law. There is wrong and right which is a moral judgment. Morals being a lot like taste and smell, a personal preference. What fucking right do you flesh and bone fucks have to control what I do anyway. Let your rotting flesh turn to dust and the grass above your dry corpse grow brown with time. May the sun eat this planet with all books, degrees and matter that forms it all be swallowed. Forever crushing our dull reality and cutting an end to the energy of our souls! In time your ideas of control and conformity will be ever so useless, the same as your greedy hands that dig into my business. Live yours, I will live mine, the one thing I have is my life and thoughts, giving to me and only me, you can not have it!
~D
So my point being...
If you want to smoke it, go for it. If you don't want to smoke, don't. If you want to choose who does and does'nt, fuck off!



One more thing... Perma ban lastmanstanding please.

i love this guy!

 

[Dirty]

I'm against it and will always be. I'm a tax payer and people who sell it are breaking more than 1 law.

Most people that sell it are selling other drugs.

Starting to smoke it more than likely well get you to do other drugs. Even if it's once.

If you have to carry a gun to do your job and you're not Police or the Military than you are a bad guy. I have no room in my world for bad guys. We drop bombs on bad guys.

You can't tell me it good for you and you can't tell me that it's ok to drive after you do it.

For me smoking weed is not like downloading a song. People lose their lives because because of weed. Anything that is this dangerous should never be legal. Not even for terminally ill people.

"We drop bombs on bad guys."

You're a fucking retard.
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/database/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,976392,00.html

But reading this may do you no good. You're to fucking stupid to know what a civilian is.

 

[LastManStanding]

You know its all funny how companies fire people for popping positive on the drug test for weed. I must not be the only one that feels this way.

I don't wish any harm on anyone. Even people that I don't like. I hope that the grass grows green, the flowers bloom and the birds sing over everyones resting spot. May the warmth of the sun bath you in happiness.

 

[JustAnotherStayAtHomeDad]

Subject: The Raw and Ugly Truth About The War on Drugs

Posted by CN Staff on August 17, 2005 at 06:01:01 PT
By Mike Adams, Health Ranger
Source: NewsTarget Network

USA -- Drugs are bad. Drugs destroy peoples' lives. Didn't you know that
marijuana turns regular everyday people into zombie pot smokers? That's why
we have a war on drugs in America: to protect our children from potheads.
Drugs are bad. Especially marijuana. I learned this the other day when I
visited an elementary school as a guest speaker. The schoolchildren were
well trained in describing the dangers of drugs. On command, they would
spout out any number of statements describing them.

But then a funny thing happened. I started asking how many of them were on
drugs. You know, drugs their doctor prescribed. Drugs that alter brain
chemistry to keep them docile, or free of pain, or to dilate their lungs so
they could breathe easier.

It turned out that 60% of these schoolchildren were either on drugs at that
very moment, or had been on such drugs within the last twelve months.
Two-thirds of the teachers were on drugs, too. And it's not at all a stretch
to believe that 40% or more of all parents are on drugs. Mild-altering drugs
like antidepressants, no less.

A Nation of Drug Addicts

Fact is, we are a nation of drug addicts. We drug ourselves, our elderly and
our children on a daily basis.

We do it with prescription medications, over-the-counter pills, alcohol,
caffeine, nicotine... and we say it's all fine because those drugs are
legal.

But wait a minute, you say. Those legal drugs are different from marijuana.
They're FDA-approved drugs, prescribed by a doctor. They have a medical
purpose.

Oh really? Ritalin has a medical purpose? What medical symptoms does Ritalin
treat, then? What measurable physiological state is addressed with Ritalin?
There are none, of course. Ritalin is an authority drug. It keeps children
in line. It makes teachers feel less stress and parents feel less guilt.

Ritalin is a mind-altering narcotic, and yet millions of children are on it
today. Its purpose is not to help children, but to make life more convenient
for those who manage children.

You think statin drugs have a medical purpose? Think again. In reality, they
only have a profit purpose. These drugs were invented to sell pills that
manage disease states in people, not that solve any real health problem.

Don't believe me? Just stop taking your statin drugs, if you dare, and watch
your cholesterol skyrocket. You'll find out you're a slave to the drug, and
no healthier than before.

What's The Difference Between Legal and Illegal Drugs?

So what's the real difference between legal drugs and illegal drugs? Some
people think that only illegal drugs are habit-forming. Yet legal drugs can
be just as addictive as illegal drugs. Just ask anyone who has tried to quit
smoking, go off caffeine, or kick to Oxycontin habit.

So is there some other difference between illegal drugs and legal drugs?
People argue that legal drugs are safe.

They're FDA-approved! And yet they fail to recognize that prescription drugs
kill more Americans each year than all the crack, meth, and heroin deaths
combined.

Okay, then, what about the argument that illegal drugs have no medicinal
purpose, and legal drugs do have a medicinal purpose. What about that? Wrong
again. Medical marijuana is a medically proven treatment for a variety of
conditions, yet marijuana still remains illegal. Even MDMA (now called
"Ecstasy" on the street) was long considered an effective "experiential
drug" that helped severely traumatized adult patients overcome past pains
through improved clarity. At the same time, tobacco smoke has no medical
purpose whatsoever, yet cigarettes remain perfectly legal.

No, the real difference between these two classes of drugs is not their
medical merit, nor their safety. The real difference is something far more
sinister.

It gets right down to answering the question of why DEA agents will raid
medical marijuana clinics, yet stand by doing nothing while Americans smoke
themselves to death on tobacco.

Want to know the real answer? I very much doubt you do. Because, like most
Americans, you won't believe it. You've been blinded to the obvious truth
for your whole life, manipulated by the media, and brainwashed by
advertising that has turned you into a statistically-validated consumer.
You'll think, no, this couldn't possibly be true. The world isn't that
unjust, you think. But you're wrong. (Take the free Gullibility Factor test
to find out if you're really a mind slave or not...)

Here's the raw, blunt truth about the war on drugs. Drugs are declared legal
or illegal based primarily on who benefits from their manufacture,
distribution and sale.

Corporate and Government Profits Determine The Legality

Let me put this another way. You know why cigarettes are still legal?
Consider this: here's a product that admittedly kills people. It has no
health benefit whatsoever. It is a threat to the public health. Yet why does
it remain legal? Because states get a cut of cigarette sales thanks to the
Big Tobacco settlement a few years back. Keeping cigarettes legal results in
desperately-needed revenues for states... revenues that are almost never
spent on anti-smoking campaigns, by the way.

It's a classic racket: tobacco is allowed to remain legal because powerful
institutions get a cut of the action.

While people die from lung cancer, states get financial resuscitation by
taking a cut of every sale. States are trading your health for their
revenues.

Think I'm being overly cynical? Let's take a look at gambling laws.
Organized gambling is illegal at both the state and federal levels in this
country.

Except, of course, when government gets a cut. Casino-friendly states didn't
just make casinos legal for the good of the public: they legalized gambling
in exchange for a cut of the action. It's a classic, mob-style "protection
fee."

If you want to test this theory, launch your own online gambling website.
You'll be shut down almost immediately and charged with serious crimes.
Gambling and organized betting is illegal, didn't you know? That is, unless
the state runs the show, as in state lotteries.

It's right in your face, folks: gambling is legal when powerful corporations
or institutions get a piece of the action. It's illegal when they don't. It
has nothing at all to do with morality, or protecting people, or doing
what's right. It's all about money, pure and simple. Just ask all the
corrupt politicians in Missouri who legalized riverboat gambling a few years
back.

Getting back to drugs, why do you think alcohol remains a legal drug?
Because states and cities tax it. State governments are addicted to
alcoholics as a source of revenue to fund their voter entitlement programs
that get politicians reelected. Alcohol is a cash machine for cities and
states.

With all that in mind, why do you think prescription drugs that kill people
remain legal? Think carefully now...

If you guessed, "Because powerful corporations generate billions in profits
selling drugs, and governments get a cut of that via state sales taxes and
corporate income taxes" then BINGO! You win a prize: a lifetime of free
Prozac to keep you happy!

Legal Drugs Generate Windfall Profits for Those in Power

Think about it: if prescription drugs were peddled by street dealers instead
of doctors, and if all that revenue changed hands in a non-taxable,
non-corporate structure (i.e. street cash), then you'd be seeing full-scale
law enforcement action against the makers, distributors and sellers of those
drugs. You'd also see endless headlines about how dangerous they were:
"Street painkillers kill twelve in South Miami!"

The sad truth of the matter, though, is that those very same painkilling
drugs killed at least twelve people in South Miami this very day. But you'll
never here about it in the media. Because the news networks are sponsored by
drug companies, of course. (The news is not designed to inform you, it's
designed to shape your reality, to turn you into a consumer of whatever
products the corporations are peddling this year. Didn't you know?)

Every drug that's legal is legal for one simple reason: somebody in a
position of power is keeping it legal because they're getting a cut.

Non-Patentable Drugs are Usually Outlawed

That's why medical marijuana is illegal: because government doesn't control
its distribution, nor does government receive a financial cut. You can bet
your life that if Big Pharma owned the patents on medical marijuana and
could set monopolistic prices on it, pot would be perfectly legal to own and
smoke. That is, as long as you got it from a pharmacy where prices and
distribution could be controlled.

Control is the key here. You think the FDA is discrediting drugs from Canada
in order to protect your health? Get real. The FDA is simply protecting the
monopoly drug market in this country. It's controlling distribution points
in the U.S. in the same way that a crack dealer assassinates his street
corner competition. Eliminate the competition, and you can set whatever
price you want.

That's why uninformed U.S. consumers pay 30,000% markup prices for drugs
that can be acquired in Mexico or Canada for pennies on the dollar.

It's Not About Your Health, It's About Their Wealth

You see, corporate America doesn't really care what you put in your mouth,
up your nose, through your lungs or into your veins, as long as they get a
cut from it. That's the whole prescription drug racket in a nutshell: it's
billions of dollars in annual profits generated from mind-altering (yet
legal) drugs that flat-out kill people. Lots of people. Like 100,000
Americans a year (or a lot more if you believe more critical statistics).

So if you've ever wondered why Ritalin -- which has no medical purpose
whatsoever -- is perfectly legal, and yet medical marijuana -- which has a
well-proven medical purpose -- is outlawed, now you know the answer: because
Ritalin makes powerful people rich. And marijuana doesn't.

Anybody can grow marijuana. Drug companies don't control the patents.

Why I Teach People To Be 100% Drug Free

Now, just for the record, I do not personally use any drugs whatsoever
(recreational, over-the-counter, prescription or otherwise), and in fact, I
teach people to be 100% free of all drugs, including caffeine and alcohol.

I bought into the "just say no to drugs" advice of Nancy Reagan, and I
actually applied it to ALL drugs, not just selective drugs.

And as far as I can tell, aside from the Mormons and the Amish, there are
only a small percentage of truly drug-free people living in this country.
Practically everybody I meet is addicted to at least one of the following:
coffee, cigarettes, alcohol, pain meds, prescription drugs or sugar (which
alters brain chemistry in drug-like fashion).

At the same time, I'm not at all fooled by this silly "War on Drugs"
charade, which is really nothing more than enforcement of corporate drug
profits at gunpoint. If we had a genuine war on drugs in this country that
really worked to protect the American people we'd send DEA agents into drug
company offices and confiscate all the legalized but deadly medications
being manufactured, distributed and deceptively sold to unwitting Americans
today.

Medical marijuana is a threat to both the profits and power of drug
companies, not to mention the credibility of the DEA. Letting grannies smoke
pot in California makes DEA agents look silly. If it were allowed, it would
also undermine the billions of dollars already spent incarcerating people
for "pot crimes." Basically, it would make the whole War on Drugs look
stupid. Which it most assuredly is, at least when it comes to marijuana.

I can understand taking a tough stance on hard drugs (crack, meth, heroin,
etc.), but arresting cancer patients who smoke s for pain control
sounds a lot more like oppression than law enforcement to me.

So what is the War on Drugs? It's an excuse to control you. It is a system
that keeps the population in a state of constant fear so that heroic
politicians can get elected on empty promises to "keep fighting the war on
drugs!"

The DEA is AWOL On Most Drug Issues

Where is this War on Drugs when it comes to Grandma in the nursing home, who
died of a stroke caused by Cox-2 inhibitor drugs? Where is the War on Drugs
when little Johnny schoolboy picks up a rifle and blows away his classmates
because he's on antidepressants and can't tell the difference between real
life and a first-person-shooter video game? Where is the War on Drugs when
16,500 people each year die, shitting digested blood until they pass out and
die because that daily dose of aspirin tore a gaping hole in their stomach?

The War on Drugs, you see, turns a blind eye to the death and suffering
caused by these drugs. The DEA pretends prescription drugs don't even exist.
No prescription drug death has ever been prevented by the DEA as far as I
know.

Yet 100,000 Americans are killed each year by FDA-approved drugs.

The DEA has no interest whatsoever in protecting Americans from these drugs.
Ever wonder why?

The DEA is properly named, by the way. It's the Drug Enforcement Agency.
It's enforcing drugs. The right drugs.

The legal drugs. The drugs that make money for drug companies, drug
distributors, drug retailers, cities, states and countries. It's enforcement
at gunpoint, and as long as the money keeps flowing, the drugs will stay
perfectly legal, regardless of who dies.

The entire distribution system is well in place: the false and misleading
television advertising, the outright bribery of drug dealers (doctors), the
street corner fulfillment centers (pharmacies), and the coordinating drug
lord running the show (the Fraud and Drug Administration). It's a brilliant
system for manufacturing, promoting, delivering and selling deadly,
addictive drugs to children, adults and seniors while generating corporate
profits and tax revenues for cities, states and nations.

And that's the raw truth about the War on Drugs. You may not like it, but
now, at least, you know why it exists.

So I have a common sense question for all the people in this country. If you
support the War on Drugs, then why are you taking so many drugs yourself?
And why are you allowing your children to be drugged?

Source: NewsTarget Network (Taiwan)
Author: Mike Adams, Health Ranger
Published: August 15, 2005
Copyright: 2005 NewsTarget Network
Website: http://www.newstarget.com/

 

[imported_Sadistic]

You know its all funny how companies fire people for popping positive on the drug test for weed. I must not be the only one that feels this way.

I don't wish any harm on anyone. Even people that I don't like. I hope that the grass grows green, the flowers bloom and the birds sing over everyones resting spot. May the warmth of the sun bath you in happiness.

People get fired from jobs for failing a drug test because insurance companies won't cover on the job accidents for anyone testing positive for drugs,Thus being drug free is made a condition of your employment so that the company you work for doesn't get stuck with the bill. It's about money not the company giving a shit what you smoke.


Also awsome posts from daddy and dirty.